175 - Disentangling and the Asbury Revival

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Today on RTP — Duggar disentangles and the Asbury Revival breakdown. Also do some pastors now regret opting out of Social Security?

 
 

SHOW NOTES:

NYTimes “Masks did nothing”

Ken Ham on the Asbury Revival

The Spirit of Revival at Asbury

Asbury University Revival - Allie B. Stuckey

The ASBURY REVIVAL - 8 Crucial Questions We Need To Ask - Wretched

You Want True Revival? Here's Where To Find It - Wretched

Jinger Vuolo’s Story of Disentangling Faith from Fear

Jinger Duggar Vuolo Ditched Her Family’s Church, But Held Onto Her Strong Christian Convictions (DailyWire subscription required)

What if the “Old Paths” Are Actually New? - by Thomas Balzamo

When Passion Lacks Direction (The Asbury Revival) - by Daniel Fox

Scriptures Verses Cited: Proverbs 13:22; Proverbs 6

The following a portions of the emails discussed in the Aftershow:

From Doug K.:
Hyles was a "Johnny-come-lately" to KJVOism. His "mentor," John R. Rice was strongly anti-KJVOism in the Sword of the Lord and his published books ("Our God-inspired Bible" – the title might be slightly different, I'm going from memory). Rice died in 1980, and before that Hyles showed few if any signs of KJVOism. In his book, "Let's Hear Jack Hyles" in a sermon "Fire the Preacher" he makes an impassioned plea for inspiration of the original language texts (I think pp. 112-113). Then in his "commentary" on Revelation, "Let's Study Revelation," there are places where he corrects the KJV. These volumes date from the 1960s, or early 1970s.

Hyles did jump on the KJVO bandwagon, and did notoriously desecrate a modern English translation (maybe NIV or NASB) at a "Southwide Baptist Fellowship" meeting (as I recall) in the early 1980s, denouncing it as the Devil's Bible (pure grandstanding, in my opinion). Hyles was at this point about a decade into his continuous adulterous relationship with one of the church's secretaries (which made me wonder if Hyles' favorite KJV was the 1631 edition that left the "not" out of the 7th commandment!). He did much to spread the "zeal"--without knowledge--of KJVOism through his school and his circle of preacher friends, and a retired pastor in the BBF imitated Hyles' Bible desecration in a preachers' meeting in Springfield, Missouri in 1987.

So – no, he didn't start it, though he did much to muddy the waters and spread the error further.

From Ron M.:

Doug has written a lot on this and knows more than me. Hyles did not start the KJVO movement, but as Doug already said, he came much later. His 1993 Book, “Enemies of Soul Winning,” has some strong language about the KJV. I do not think I ever mentioned Jack Hyles in my document. It was not my focus, but here is what my book said in 2016.

  1. When did the KJVO movement start?

Every English translation since Tyndale has had strong advocates declare that it was the best. The KJV has a long history and has had many admirers. However, Doug McLachlan correctly notes that "there is no evidence that previous generations of fundamentalists have used the translation issue as a hallmark of an authentic kind of fundamentalism."

The exact history of the KJVO movement is impossible to trace. Dean Burgon was an early advocate of the traditional text and KJV, but he differed with modern KJVO persons because he called for changes in both. Seventh Day Adventist, Benjamin Wilkinson (1872-1968), was an early advocate of KJV superiority. He influenced J.J. Ray and David Otis Fuller. Peter Ruckman joined the effort just before 1960 and has been the most influential advocate. Almost all KJVO people are followers of Ruckman's error-filled teachings, but, of course, many do not admit this fact.

  1. Grisanti, ed., The Bible Version Debate, p. 4.

  2. John William Burgon, The Revision Revised (Paradise, Penn.: Conservative Classics, 1883), pp. 2, 21, 72, 107-14, 152, 189, 190, 216-20. Burgon's work was in progress, but unfortunately was never completed when he died. He recommended more than 150 corrections in the TR in the Gospel of Matthew. For more on this, see Conjurske, "J.W. Burgon on the King James Version," pp. 100-104.

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