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018 - Musings on Revivalism, Revivalists, and Revivals

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018 - Musings on Revivalism, Revivalists, and Revivals Thomas Balzamo, Daniel Fox

In this episode, we ponder what is meant by the term “Revival” in Christian circles and some of it’s history.

Time stamps:

Feedback - 00:06:37

Main Topic - 00:15:21

Word of the Week - 00:56:38

Things I like/Find subjectively irritating 00:59:24

Closing Remarks - 01:06:17

Outtakes - 01:11:10

Show notes:

Often used Old Testament verses that refer to national revival - Psalm 85:6; 2 Chronicles 7:14.

Scripture verses on New Testament Christian “revival” in concept in an actual church - 1 Corinthians 1:10; 2 Corinthians 7:1-11. 

Back to Normal by Rick Flanders

Short intro to Charles G. Finney

Another intro to Charles G. Finney

Charles G. Finney denies the sin nature, substitutionary atonement, imputation, and justification In particular, See paragraph 10 and following, and also the endnotes 36-41 which are all direct quotes from Finney’s Systematic Theology. Once on the page you can also CMD+F or CTRL+F for the name “Finney” for each mention. 

Charles G. Finney on the “use of means” to bring about “revivals” See Lecture 1, III., Remarks. In fairness to Finney, it appears at times he attempts to balance the Sovereignty of God and man’s responsibility in the issue. Overall, however he appears to lean toward a man-centered philosophy of what he calls “promote[ing]” revivals by the “use of means”. 

Description of Charles G. Finney’s revival meetings:(from a Pastoral Letter, drafted by pastors of Congregational churches in Oneida and sent to ministers of the Ministers of the Oneida Association.) “Condemning in the gross, or approving in the gross; Making too much of any favorable appearance; Not guarding against false conversions; Ostentation and noise; The hasty acknowledgment of persons converted; (The strength of a church does not consist in its numbers, but in it’s graces . . . We fear that desire of counting numbers is too much indulged, even by good people.); Suffering the feelings to control judgment; Talking too much about opposition; Censuring, as unconverted, or as cold, stupid, and dead, those who are in good standing in the visible church; Praying for persons by name, in an abusive manner; Denouncing as enemies or reviling those who do not approve of everything that is done; Taking the success of any measures, as an evidence that those measures are right, and approved by God.’ (Iain H. Murray, Revival & Revivalism: The Making and Marring of American Evangelicalism 1750-1858, [Banner of Truth Trust, 1994] pp. 231-235). 

Charles G. Finney on the post-revival condition of his converts: “the great body of those who were thought to have been converted were a ‘disgrace to religion’” (Murray, p.289).

A writer asserts the influence of the Second Great Awakening on the rise of Mormonism

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